I was trying to find my perfect ultra trail shoe and got these a couple weeks ago. Used them on one 6.6 mile trail run. They are really nice shoes but the sizing is just too off for me to trust them in a long run, and now that I have the Tectons, I won't be using them. Can't send them back as I've used them already. Figured I'd see if anyone here wants them before I look locally. Norda recommends going up a half size and since they dont make a 13.5 I went with it. I have the og box and everything that came with it